aka “Phantom of the Opera vs. Pink Floyd vs. Train vs. Puccini vs. Ray Repp vs. Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat vs. Weezer”
Pink Floyd vs. Train Submitted by thewaitisogre
Pink Floyd vs. Phantom of the Opera submitted by Cristian & Travis & Matthew
This one just got better and better as I started to look into it. After checking the Andrew Lloyd Webber Phantom of the Opera wikipedia page for some possible details it seems there are other examples. As I sit here and listen to Pink Floyd “Echoes” (1971) for the next 23 minutes (it’s a really long song) I am going to check out these others and post them below.
In 1987, the heirs of Giacomo Puccini charged in a lawsuit that the climactic phrase in “Music of the Night” closely resembled a similar phrase in the sequence “Quello che tacete” from Puccini’s opera Girl of the Golden West. The litigation was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount.
In 1990, a Baltimore songwriter named Ray Repp filed a lawsuit alleging that the title song from Phantom was based on a song that he wrote in 1978 called “Till You.” After eight years of litigation — including an unsuccessful countersuit by Lloyd Webber claiming that “Till You” was itself a plagiarism of “Close Every Door” from Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat — the jury found in Lloyd Webber’s favor.
Roger Waters [of Pink Floyd] has repeatedly claimed in interviews that the signature descending/ascending half-tone chord progression from Phantom’s title song was plagiarised from the bass line of a track on the Pink Floyd album Meddle called “Echoes.” He has never taken any legal action (“Life’s too long to bother with suing Andrew fucking Lloyd Webber”), but he did add an insulting reference to Lloyd Webber in his song “It’s a Miracle”: “We cower in our shelters/With our hands over our ears/Lloyd Webber’s awful stuff/Runs for years and years and years/An earthquake hits the theatre/But the operetta lingers/Then the piano lid comes down/And breaks his fucking fingers. /It’s a miracle!”. source: wikipedia
I also started to hum Weezer‘s Blue Album b-side “Susanne”. Might be a stretch but I’m adding it anyway.
“Phantom of the Opera Theme” Intro:
“Phantom of the Opera Theme” Verse:
I am not sure what Webber is talking about above but here is part of the Technicolor song:
“Music of the Night”
Train vs. Train
And what’s the deal with Train? Is it me or do these two choruses sound fairly similar?
Here is what a 23 minute Pink Floyd song looks like (“Echoes”):